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What does Dedicated IP mean and what are they for?
| Posted by tenzan, 09-21-2005, 07:56 AM |
| Hello!
In http://hostnetway.com/services/reseller.html shown that Dedicated IP offered. Depending on the plan they're 2 or 3.
What are they used for? What can I do with them?
tenzan
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| Posted by hostingoption, 09-21-2005, 08:07 AM |
| They offer you Dedicated ip means you can shift the load of sites on multiple IP's or you an IP for one site also, go faster and more
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| Posted by GIGANET, 09-21-2005, 08:07 AM |
| SSL - https
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| Posted by GIGANET, 09-21-2005, 08:09 AM |
| Where did you get this idea? Using a dedicated IP does NOT make your site go faster!
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| Posted by net, 09-21-2005, 08:14 AM |
| Maybe he meant dedicated server :-)
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| Posted by tenzan, 09-21-2005, 08:23 AM |
| Please look at the http://hostnetway.com/services/reseller.html
and you willl find the line for Dedicated IP...
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| Posted by GIGANET, 09-21-2005, 08:30 AM |
| Obviously for SSL certificates.
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| Posted by net, 09-21-2005, 08:30 AM |
| I am not talking about your post tenzan. I am replying what GIGANET said.
I know dedicated ip man :-) and the only good reason on having a dedicated ip is because of certificate (ssl).
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| Posted by tenzan, 09-21-2005, 08:33 AM |
| Sorry
Thanks for reply.
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| Posted by net, 09-21-2005, 08:39 AM |
| No, don't be sorry. My fault also, I didn't quote his message :-)
Anyway, we basically answered your questions.
Happy hosting!
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| Posted by tenzan, 09-21-2005, 08:45 AM |
| Can anybody explain me how the dedicated IP address is used for SSL?
Or maybe this is not the place to ask such questions?..
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| Posted by hfohrman, 09-21-2005, 10:49 AM |
| I think there is one reason more to have dedicated IP.
If you have a reseller at a host with now dedicated ip.
Then if someone do a nslookup of yourhost.com they will have the IP in return. But if they do a nslookup IP there will be a revese lookup and they will se the name of the host. And this will then in 99.999% of the cases give the name of the company who host the server.
So in this case there is not so much use to have your own nameservers as a customer within 2 seconds can understand where you buy your hosting.
If you instead have 3 dedicated IP's (one for the host and one for each NS) and also have setup the IP on a good way the customer will se your name in his reverse nslookup. If not setup OK the reverse lookup will not give any name and that also keeps you private.
OK There is other ways to find out where you host but this closes one way to find out.
Hans
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| Posted by tenzan, 09-21-2005, 12:54 PM |
| Now I got it. I thinks it's better to have your own ip addresses. Otherwise they will know that I'm hosted.
If it is like that, I think everyone does the same. Or there someone who don't use his own ip addresses for NS record?
tenzan
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| Posted by hfohrman, 09-21-2005, 01:15 PM |
| I think that it really depends.
For me I have a reseller on a server in UK. And for me it's OK if anyone se that, as 99% of the customers is Swedish and they will not go direkt to the host as they don't support them in Swedish.
But if you like to be totaly branded then 3 dedicated IP's is good.
But as long as a customer can to a tracert there is always a way for them to find out where the server is. As the IP always goes over some routers in the end telling what computer site it's on.
Hans
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| Posted by tenzan, 09-21-2005, 01:25 PM |
| I'm also planning to offer hosting in non-english-speaking country. So it's not necessary to have 3 dedicated IPs until I want to be fully branded, right?
But, at least I have to have 1 dedicated for my domain...
One thing more, we forget about SSL. Some said dedicated IPs used for SSL...
Thanks,
tenzan
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| Posted by tenzan, 09-21-2005, 01:59 PM |
| In debian pc (which is firewall) traceroute www.site5.com:
traceroute to www.site5.com (216.118.110.8), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
traceroute: sendto: Operation not permitted
1 traceroute: wrote www.site5.com 38 chars, ret=-1
212-42-117-239.elcat.kg (212.42.117.239) 1.450 mstraceroute: sendto: Operation not permitted
traceroute: wrote www.site5.com 38 chars, ret=-1
1.364 mstraceroute: sendto: Operation not permitted
traceroute: wrote www.site5.com 38 chars, ret=-1
1.349 ms
Maybe shorewall problems...
Now investigating...
tenzan
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| Posted by VN-Ken, 09-21-2005, 02:56 PM |
| Just responding to your inital post here. For our certain client base, we have customers with their own customers who need SSL certificates, so in this effect, we offer many IPs per plan so that our customer will have IP's for their own use or for their customers use; either / or.
As well, a lot of our customers like the fact that they can access their website via http://xxx.xx.xxx.xxx. The "X' replaces a number of course.
Although some people do believe that your website can load faster if it's own it's own IP, I have personally found this to be inadequate, as it seems to load about the same, although people do have their own opinions.
Customers have the option to use our shared IP, or they can use their own. Usually when they use their own (which subtracts from the reseller plan / multi-domain account's IP's) they ask us to make a RDNS (reverse dns) entry for them, which we have no problem doing, so that really isn't an issue.
Each dedicated IP is solely for the use of the reseller. Each reseller has their own IP's for their name servers, SEPERATE from the included plan IPs. Also, please refer to the statement made above.
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I hope this clears up some of the issues mentioned.
Regards,
Kenneth
Last edited by VN-Ken; 09-21-2005 at 03:04 PM.
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| Posted by hfohrman, 09-21-2005, 03:26 PM |
| My tracert to site5.com. Not to bad to be in US.
But for my host in UK I have 33 ms.
And I like this PC software to make my tracert.
Pingplotter freeware
http://www.pingplotter.com/download.html
Hans
Target Name: www.site5.com
IP: 216.118.110.8
Date/Time: 2005-09-21 21:20:57
1 0 ms [192.168.0.1]
2 6 ms [195.58.100.217]
3 6 ms ge-1-0-1.0010.se-gbgms001-pe-1.tu.telenor.net [195.58.100.229]
4 11 ms ge-0-1-0.no-oslms001-pe-1.tu.telenor.net [212.105.101.102]
5 11 ms nb03b11-ge1-0-2.nb.telenor.net [217.70.229.117]
6 11 ms nb01b12-ge2-0.nb.telenor.net [217.70.227.17]
7 36 ms nb21b12-pos4-3.nb.telenor.net [217.70.227.22]
8 106 ms linx.ge-0-0-0.gbr1.ltn.nac.net [195.66.224.94]
9 108 ms 0.so-0-3-0.gbr1.oct.nac.net [209.123.11.233]
10 108 ms site5.com [216.118.110.8]
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| Posted by tenzan, 09-22-2005, 12:00 AM |
| Thanks. I installed that soft.
The result image I attached. Which opstion did you choose so that you have connection time in ms?
tenzan
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| Posted by tenzan, 09-22-2005, 12:06 AM |
| Sorry! This thread had to be here http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...hreadid=445580
tenzan
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| Posted by jerjo, 09-22-2005, 06:53 AM |
| I think we also need dedicated IPs -in addition to using them for SSL- in order to request a rDNS from the mother hosting company. Otherwise, the rDNS will show those of the company whose services you are selling.
I recall reading this somewhere
... Consequently, I bought 2
Last edited by jerjo; 09-22-2005 at 07:08 AM.
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| Posted by Aorozco, 09-24-2005, 05:19 PM |
| Well.. i have around twelve dedicated IP APART of my resellers, for four reasons:
a) Some sites can be reached for ip. The adevntages are if someone block the name, i can enter directly for ip.
b) More "nerd look" . Is different have one site in one address, than the competitors with 1200 =)
c) If i have a customer with "strange themes" i put in a dedicated ip . Political forums, 3-R Photos, etc.
d) Because i have many sites ( 200 own, 900 in all servers ), i want sometimes have in the same "reseller" two class c ip address. Jodohost and cyberwurx shine in this.
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| Posted by customp, 11-06-2005, 04:38 PM |
| In the past search engines weighed sites with their own dedicated IP more heavily, which is why I use to have a dediacted IP for each of my domains (I had 300 domains back then, but I sold that business and started a new business building PC's now).
Does anyone here know if that is still the case?
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