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| Posted by michaely, 12-22-2006, 05:44 AM |
| If I go with a reseller account with a host you will see how many clients are hosted on that server, but if I purchase a dedicated IP will it only display my sites?
For example I have seen some sites online that if you punch in a site it will tell you how many sites are hosted on that server. So I figure if I purchase a dedicated IP and assign that to all of my clients, it will only show my sites (not the other X amount of sites on that server). Is this true?
I just want clients to be able to punch in my site or another site hosted by myself and see the amount of sites I host, not the other X amount also on that server. I do not plan to stay with a reseller account for long, I want to move up to a large VPS then onto a dedicated server.
Any input would be useful. Thanks.
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| Posted by leckley, 12-22-2006, 06:06 AM |
| As all ips still resolve back to the same server box, I do believe it will still show all the web hosting account on that server box.
Lane
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| Posted by CD Burnt, 12-22-2006, 06:17 AM |
| a dedicated IP should do what you want.
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| Posted by michaely, 12-22-2006, 06:24 AM |
| I'm getting mixed replies here
Can anyone assure me. 100% one way or the other?
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| Posted by Ben_G, 12-22-2006, 06:26 AM |
| With cPanel/WHM you can have a Dedicated IP Address for your sites and your sites only. It's done with the Main Shared IP setting under the Reseller Center
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| Posted by CD Burnt, 12-22-2006, 06:37 AM |
| but you said, "Any input would be useful.".
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| Posted by michaely, 12-22-2006, 06:45 AM |
| My question was, if someone was to look up a site hosted by me (on a dedicated IP) would it only show the sites on that dedicated IP or all of the sites on the reseller server.
I know, and I thank you. But you didn't seem 100% on your answer there.
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| Posted by Ben_G, 12-22-2006, 07:03 AM |
| Yes, if someone were to lookup the site on the dedicated IP address it would only show the site(s) on that dedicated IP and not all of the sites on the server.
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| Posted by PremiumHost, 12-22-2006, 08:24 AM |
| If the website is on a dedicated ip, it will show one website.
However, a dedicated ip can be assigned to only one domain.
It's not feasible to get a dedicated ip for each of your customers
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| Posted by NeoGen, 12-22-2006, 11:45 AM |
| It is very much feasible and possible. All your sites under your reseller account can be under one IP.
You can get a dedicated IP for all your sites only. Meaning when some one look at how many sites are hosted on a certain, the person will only see all the sites under your reseller account.
I have three reseller accounts from 3 different hosting providers. And all my accounts are configured exactly the way michaely is looking for.
Hope this helps!
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| Posted by michaely, 12-22-2006, 12:04 PM |
| Thanks guys! Especially HostNine and NeoGen!
You guys have helped me out a great deal.
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| Posted by WireNine, 12-22-2006, 04:22 PM |
| Yes that is possible.
If a dedicated IP is assigned to a reseller account, looking up that IP will only show the number of web sites under that IP.
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| Posted by Fastian, 12-22-2006, 04:47 PM |
| Will you please explain how this can be done???
Last time I checked with my host I get the answer that if someone will do whois to any domain hosted by me, they will get the servers IP and will be able to see other sites hosted on the server.
Of course, the main site will have a dedicated IP but that doesnt mean, that all the site you host will resolve to that IP. (or tell me if I am wrong)
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| Posted by Ben_G, 12-22-2006, 04:49 PM |
| You're wrong and your host should probably read up on WHM and DNS. They can simply set your main shared IP in the reseller center to a dedicated IP. When anyone decides to lookup that IP it will ONLY show the websites on that IP as when you're main shared IP is changed in WHM any sites you add from that point on will be on that single IP.
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| Posted by cartika-andrew, 12-22-2006, 05:52 PM |
| This is all of course assuming that people are using single server solutions. Things do not work this way with clustered solutions where accounts are spread across multiple servers - as you cannot have 1 IP host all reseller websites since again, they will be on multiple servers. They would in theory require a dedicated IP per server that their accounts will be on, and since this in theory could be 10,20 or more servers, this would not be feasible. Its likely this user is using cpanel and the advise here is valid for this situation, but, I do not believe they have confirmed that -
I would skip the whole VPS step and just find a reliable reseller solution that will let you grow until you get to a dedicated server. A VPS definately has its benefits, but for a reseller account alternative I do not think its a good fit (opinions will vary on this, and fair enough, just my friendly advise to you on this )
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| Posted by NeoGen, 12-22-2006, 10:15 PM |
| I think this has been answered pretty well by hostnine. Great and very simple answer. Thanks hostnine
Again all my three hosts namely: hostmaven, budgetreseller and duportonline have configured my respective reseller accounts like this. So I assume its something very easily doable.
For this thread, I think assumption is pretty much of single server only. So lets not confuse op with clustering and rest of the heavy stuff
He just want all his sites(or sites under his reseller account) to shown as hosted on one dedicated IP.
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| Posted by michaely, 12-22-2006, 10:23 PM |
| Exactly, I don't want to get in over my head too quickly. I'm going to work with a reseller account, move up to a large VPS and slowly upgrade my way to dedicated server. As starting out I only need about 5gb of space, and 50 or so GB of transfer, so there's no need to spend a huge amount on a VPS that will have space that will go unused.
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| Posted by Mini, 12-23-2006, 01:31 AM |
| Don't forget that there is always the option of looking at mailserver greetings (which don't change per dedicated IP) to see which company your resell for.
Mini
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| Posted by michaely, 12-23-2006, 06:01 AM |
| I'm not exactly worried about someone looking up mailserver greetings. I'm a tad bit worried about clients finding out that there are over X amount of domains on the server. They seem to take this differently.
I have a friend who runs his site on a reseller server and one of his clients looked the domain up, and found out that there were over 500 domains on that server (which doesn't seem like many to me, though I may be wrong). Because a client can have more than 1 domain assigned to their account.
But 500 domains on a server looks quite bad to someone new, and this will definitely drive away customers. I don't plan on staying with a reseller account for too long, just long enough to get some customers established, and enough money coming in to safely upgrade.
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| Posted by cartika-andrew, 12-23-2006, 11:43 AM |
| Hi Michaely,
Most customers are more concerned about the mail headers then the IP addresses. A good reseller provider will have the mail headers show up under an anonymous domain so as to provide more of a white label service.
As for the number of domains hosted on an IP, I do not believe this will scare away many people. For example, in a cluster, the we servers just house web service, no db, no mail, no cp, etc.. so, you will often see higher domain numbers. In a load balanced cluster, 1 IP may ultimately reverse to multiple servers, therefore the number will be even higher. Honestly, we have never really had a client complain over a number in a reverse (though we tend to have less then most) - the main thing is performance and reliability.
Well, it depends on the sites. Remember a single site may need 100's of servers to run while a single server can also host 100's of sites. It just depends on what sorts of sites they are and what sort of traffic they generate.
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| Posted by michaely, 12-23-2006, 06:27 PM |
| Thanks Cartika, that really helped me out
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