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why in italy no limit for Bandwidth?
| Posted by apachedave, 07-12-2004, 11:15 PM |
| Dear ALL
i was taking a look at many different plans for resellers or hosting in Italy. No company is mentioning bandwidth usage limit?
How can it be possible?
I have contacted 2 of them ( I am italian) and they said..."bandwidth limit? for what? we have limit on harddisk space..not bandwidth"
Anyone more expert knows anything about this?
regards
APACHE
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| Posted by IHSL, 07-12-2004, 11:40 PM |
| It doesn't take an expert to tell you that bandwidth can not be 'unlimited'. Whether you're in Milan, Massachusets, or Mozambique, it really doesn't matter.
Simon
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| Posted by Shaw Networks, 07-14-2004, 03:17 AM |
| Stay away from the host, "unlimited" bandwidth offers are definetly a sign of weak hosting companies.
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| Posted by apachedave, 07-14-2004, 03:54 AM |
| i understood we need to stay away, but the funny thing is that in italy no internet hosting company mention BANDWIDTH usage.
Noone is aware of that.
What they always tell you is how much space you can use on their servers
believe it or not!!!
Apache
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| Posted by eddy2099, 07-14-2004, 03:59 AM |
| Actually I am not surprised. Over here in Singapore, the major internet web hosters do not charge for bandwidth too because the upstream provider doesn't do that. But what happens is that each pipe to each machine is metered like 1mbps or something to that nature. So they could use as much as that 1mbps connection would provide.
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| Posted by VP, 07-14-2004, 04:00 AM |
| Maybe if you provide some hosting companys sites that do not state bandwith limitations in Italy it'd be more believeable. I just did a search through google and I didn't find one without bandwith limitations.
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| Posted by GreatDaneOwner, 07-14-2004, 04:05 AM |
| I believe it also depends on how developed the hosting market is and how knowledgable the hosting customers are in the given country. I know at least two other European countries where no host will mention transfer/bandwidth, simply because they know that most of their potential customers wouldn't have a clue what that means. Hosts simply assume that no customer will use so much transfer that would cause problems. 95% of customers don't use even a fifth of their bw allocation (not that they know they have an allocation), so it's not a huge problem when the remaining 5% uses double or triple. But I think it'll change slowly as customers become more knowledgeable.
GDO
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| Posted by apachedave, 07-14-2004, 04:10 AM |
| VP
this is probably the biggest hosting company in italy www.aruba.it
I spent 40 minutes to see if i could find if they mention something like bandwidth usage. I couldn't find any.
APACHE
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| Posted by hostingvince, 07-14-2004, 07:21 AM |
| Are you sure you are Italian?
Took me less tha 5 minutes ...
http://serverdedicati.aruba.it/notic...o&kvsape=banda
Vince
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| Posted by apachedave, 07-14-2004, 07:25 AM |
| 100% italian
what you found I have seen it before but it is related to dedicated servers not resellers or normal end user hosting solutions
regards
APACHE
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| Posted by hostingvince, 07-14-2004, 09:11 AM |
| But that would imply that dedicated server clients have bandwidth restrictions, while others don't?!
Cordiali saluti,
Vince
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| Posted by DSLWeb, 07-14-2004, 10:17 AM |
| same concept as a US company that would say something to that effect as you can see each box DOES have bandwidth limits.
Regards,
Lee
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| Posted by boonchuan, 07-16-2004, 07:17 AM |
| Not actually, in Singapore, at least the datacentre I was in, they even categorised bandwidth according to International, Local and Singapore
One, no limit on Singapore One, but International bandwidth really cost a BOMB. But one thing good is at least it is dedicated and u get what you paid for. Datacentre that dun specify usually have a cap for eg I have seen in Singapore 5 racks sharing 2 mbps etc.
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| Posted by 777, 07-22-2004, 07:28 AM |
| Yes in Italy they are still behind as far as that sort of market is concerned.
I have an .it domain with aruba and I can tell you all that they are prob big but only because they're cheap.
They don't mention max bandwidth and provide cheap unlimited space packages.
Support is known to be awful although in around 3 years I never had big problems.
In the US and in the UK hosts prob didn't mention BW limits in the past, but customers have become aware of the implications.
Italians are ahead and good in many things, but not in this case.
Ciao!
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| Posted by apachedave, 07-22-2004, 08:21 AM |
| I DO AGREE 100%
...this situation won't last very long in italy also.
They will get aware of what is going on.
CHEERS
APACHE
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| Posted by andreys, 07-22-2004, 11:23 AM |
| can i host from Italian hosting??? all thoe i live in usa i dont mind getting un limited banwich..... is it possible 2 host in different country?? Or is there some kind of restrictions?
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| Posted by apachedave, 07-22-2004, 11:27 AM |
| most italian hosting companies (99%) don't have an english version of their website, so either you speak italian and you apply with them or you need to ask for help to talk to them
cheers
APACHE
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| Posted by Shazan, 07-23-2004, 07:19 AM |
| Most of the italian companies do not specify the monthly transfer because they give you a capped connection.
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| Posted by apachedave, 07-23-2004, 07:29 AM |
| what is a capped connection??
I have an interesting information if you want I can show it to you related to server types of a company in italy using servers in USA also.
let us know
cheers
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| Posted by dopie, 07-31-2004, 05:49 AM |
| they do have english aruba.it
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| Posted by dopie, 07-31-2004, 05:53 AM |
| They do have on every account unlimited bandwidth i use there services now over 4 years and have 7 websites also i get tired of the stupid american people with there big mouth "unlimited bandwidth does not exist" please if you do not know a thing please SHUT UP, thank you you just say what you hear from somebody else because it does exist, the thing is you do not like to admit that america is for ones NOT the best in everything!! europe has unlimited bandwidth!! sorry guys america is doing CHEAP hehehehe have a good day, oh and do not start to make excuses you american are so good in that...looks like bush ahahaha
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| Posted by 777, 07-31-2004, 07:31 AM |
| Italians have unlimited mouths also!
I don't like politics but I have to intervene and say that I suppose the world is either for or against the US but most of them exploit them and their money anyway because they're just envious, very.
By the way...I am NOT american.
How long did it take for Italians to have McDonalds?
It'll probably take as much time to realise that unlimited bandwidth is like unlimited spaghetti or pizza or whatever in an Italian restaurant or pizzeria or whatever?
Capito?
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| Posted by apachedave, 07-31-2004, 07:38 AM |
| finally someone who says everything right. I have had an account with one company that is italian but using an american server. They do offer unlimited bandwidth. I have also an account as a reseller with an american company and look at the difference here:
ITALIAN COMPANY:
Server Type: Apache/1.3.27 (Unix) FrontPage/4.0.4.3 mod_ssl/2.8.12 OpenSSL/0.9.6h
AMERICAN COMPANY:
Server Type: Apache/1.3.31 (Unix) mod_jk/1.2.5 mod_gzip/1.3.26.1a mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 PHP/4.3.8 FrontPage/5.0.2.2634a mod_ssl/2.8.18 OpenSSL/0.9.7a
take a look what it says: mod_bwlimited/1.4
right now do you guys see the DIFFERENCE???
Maybe you americans should think of this and take away the limited FUNCTIONS on the servers.
Hope this will wake SOMEONE up and let's be transparent when doing BUSINESS
cheers everybody
APACHE-DAVE
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| Posted by apachedave, 07-31-2004, 07:40 AM |
| ITALIA doesn't even have KFC. Do you know why?
We know how to EAT, what is the defination of american FOOD??? fast food, trerrible, kills your liver. COME ON.
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| Posted by dopie, 07-31-2004, 07:55 AM |
| i forgot to tell you i'am not italian so about the mouth....sorry i'am from Spain
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| Posted by dopie, 07-31-2004, 08:00 AM |
| the thing is here if in America they don't have it, than all americans say it don't exist, lol than many things American don't know...like in europe a women can show EVERYWHERE here boobs on the beach...hehehe want to see all americans running to the travel agency hahahahha
have a good day guys my recommendation is Italian server and bla bla that they don't know about bandwidth etc...******** they just easier and give you what you deserve, making rules that bandwidth is expense , who made that rule? yes you got it the host made that rule nobody else made it like America made the dollar..think about it...if you say a computer is expensive...? is it really? maybe in America but in India not?!!!ping ping they just adjust the price to the country sorry but in the internet you can not do that internet is only 1 big seperated country. lose from the world!
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| Posted by dopie, 07-31-2004, 08:07 AM |
| just want to wish everybody a good day no hard feelings , just would like if american people ones lose up and don't think they the best, because you are not! it's clear as water
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| Posted by RaTz, 07-31-2004, 10:32 AM |
| i can relate.
in india, i've seen some magazines where hosting companies only advertise plans with space and i called one up to ask about bandwidth, but first the dude didn't know what it was and when i explained to him, i think he hung up on me purposely.
its surprising though. eventually their consumers will find out that there are restrictions to how much stuff they can send/recieve.
but i guess they'll find out the hard way
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| Posted by 777, 07-31-2004, 10:39 AM |
| If in America they don't have it, it's because they don't want it.
I prefer to touch rather than to see and not to touch, which is typical of Italian women.
Oh yes, I bet you do. They're all after their money (dollars) but hate them (maybe because they're rich?)
...with usually a lot more restrictions and that have to comply with a lot more rules and regulations, but of course for a cheaper price? Oh no, they cost much more (again, usually).
The meaning of the rest is a little obscure to me.
A lot of things are missing in Italy, they are just behind, just like McDons. Just try and think what you would do without Americans, most of which are of ITALIAN origins!
I am starting to feel an idiot discussing such a matter, so I am not likely to post any further. My apologies to everyone else.
Just let me teach you that there's good and bad in every people, if you can't see that you are probably one of the bad ones in your country, wherever you live.
Too bad...
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| Posted by apachedave, 07-31-2004, 12:23 PM |
| what things???
unfortunately when you talk about food, italian is one of the best, when you talk about fashion probably the top, when you talk about cars, probably number 1 (Ferrari), when you talk about Artists, SO MANY to be mentioned, talk about scientists....SO MANY to be mentioned....whatelse more...ah remember that if there is the internet now it is due to an ITALIAN, guglielmo Marconi, and if you don't know who he is, find it out on the NET.
cheerssss to everyone
APACHE DAVE
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| Posted by 777, 07-31-2004, 12:44 PM |
| Oh dear, here I am.
True, but you can get that in America also, actually in America you have a very broad choice, in Italy mainly Italian.
Only in theory, as you don't see those clothes around a lot. It's only marketing the brands and many of the italian fashion co's are public company's owned by guess who?
That's a joke! Firstly it's the one with the greatest financial means and before this recent run of victories they had to wait for 20!!!! years to win the title, and the team is stuffed with foreigners (Barrichello, Schumacher, Todt, Brawn, to name a few..) and heavily sponsored by....Marlboro (USA)!
The commercial Ferrari is rubbish as a car, compare it to most sportscars from around the world such as TVRs and Porsches and you'll see that it's all about keeping up appearances.
Italians are no better nor worse than any others overall.
When did they last land on the moon?
Or are we going to find a Neapolitan on Mars already?
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| Posted by apachedave, 07-31-2004, 08:54 PM |
| you don't know anything about US, so you better don't speak.
BE REAL, not UNREAL as many of the AMERICAN MOVIES
come on.
APACHE
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| Posted by 777, 08-01-2004, 04:32 AM |
| Aye aye, I won't speak any longer.
Just say that I know more than you can imagine, that's why at some stage I am going to publish a minibook about Italians, 'til then ciao ciao, mafioso!
The end, definetely!
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| Posted by apachedave, 08-01-2004, 04:36 AM |
| even saying MAFIOSO is really racist...come on
APACHE
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| Posted by 777, 08-01-2004, 05:15 AM |
| Yes, you're right.
Sorry about the MAFIOSO thing, but it was just to remind you that Italy isn't all about food, wine, sunshine, etc.
Ciao ciao ragazzo!
(APACHE=native American)
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